DifficultConversations高难度谈话英文版
about the authors
Douglas Stone is a Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School and a
partner at Triad Consulting Group com a consulting
rm specializing in negotiation communication and conict resolu-
tion He consults to universities law rms nancial institutions non-
prots governments and businesses large and small
Stone has
taught and mediated in South Africa Cyprus South Korea and at
the Organization of African Unity in Ethiopia and his articles have
appeared in publications ranging from The New York Times to Parents
magazine He is a graduate of Harvard Law School where for ten
years he served as Associate Director of the Harvard Negotiation
Project He is currently researching the interplay between trauma
and forgiveness especially in the context of race gender or divided
communities He can be reached at dstonecom
Bruce Patton is Deputy Director of the Harvard Negotiation Project
which he co-founded and a partner in CMIVantage Partners LLC
vantagepartnerscom a global consulting rm that helps
organizations build their capacity to manage relationships negotia-
tions and conict with suppliers customers alliance partners cross-
matrix teammates in ways that create rather than destroy value Patton
has also helped structure the South African constitutional process
craft a resolution of the 1980 Iranian hostage conict and facilitate
labor agreements for educational reform Appointed Thaddeus R
Beal Lecturer on Law in 1987 he has taught negotiation at Harvard
since 1981 A graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School
Patton is co-author of the bestseller Getting to Yes Second Edition
Penguin 1991 and can be reached at bpattoncom
Sheila Heen is a Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School and a part-
ner at Triad Consulting Group a rm dedicated to assisting individu-
als and organizations with their toughest conversations Heen coaches
executives facing difcult choices labor-management teams locked
in conict family businesses facing succession issues and communi-
ties divided by racial strife Her clients range from Fidelity Invest-
ments to the Singapore Supreme Court from the US Air Force to
the Carlson Family from Greek and Turkish Cypriots to The Citadel
Military College of South Carolina At Harvard Heen teaches nego-
tiation to students and professionals and writes regularly on the sub-
ject of communication and conict management She lives in
Cambridge Massachusetts with her husband and her son and can
be reached at heencom
DOUGLAS STONE BRUCE PATTON SHEILA HEEN
Difcult
Conversations
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W h a t M a t t e r s
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To our families
with love and gratitude
and to our friend and mentor Roger Fisher
for his vision and commitment
Foreword
The Harvard Negotiation Project is best known for a book on nego-
tiation and problem-solving called Getting to YES that has sold more
than three million copies Since its publication in 1981 readers all
over the world have been persuaded that negotiators are more effec-
tive when they move away from adversarial posturing and instead
work jointly to satisfy the interests of both sides
The Harvard Method as it is sometimes called emphasizes the
importance of easy two-way communication Yet in both negotiations
and daily life for good reasons or bad we often dont talk to each
other and dont want to And sometimes when we do talk things
only get worse Feelings anger guilt hurt escalate We become
more and more sure that we are right and so do those with whom we
disagree
This is the realm of Difcult Conversations and why it is such a
powerful and urgently needed book It explores what it is that makes
conversations difcult why we avoid them and why we often handle
them badly Although the inquiry grew initially from a desire to help
negotiators the subject has far deeper implications Difcult Conver-
sations addresses a critical aspect of human interaction It applies to
how we deal with children parents landlords tenants suppliers
customers bankers brokers neighbors team members patients em-
ployees and colleagues of any kind
In this book my colleagues Doug Bruce and Sheila take us by
the hand and show us how to open the door to greater fulllment
in any relationship They provide the stance of mind and heart and
viii For eword
the skills of expression needed to achieve effective communication
across the gulf of real differences in experiences beliefs and feelings
whether in personal relations business dealings or international
affairs
These are the skills needed to take a serious disagreement within
a business organization and transform it from a drag on competitive-
ness into an engine for innovation These are the skills we all can use
to make a marriage more enjoyable and durable and to make rela-
tions between parents and teenagers something far better than a war
zone These skills can heal the wounds that keep so many of us apart
They offer each of us a better future
Returning from several years in the US Army Air Force during
World War II I discovered that my roommate two of my closest
friends and dozens of classmates had been killed in that war Ever
since I have worked to improve the skills with which we deal with
our differences to improve the prospects for our childrens future
and to enlist others in that cause This brilliant and compelling book
by my younger colleagues at the Harvard Negotiation Project leaves
me feeling optimistic that progress is being made on all three counts
Roger Fisher
Cambridge Massachusetts
Acknowledgments
This book draws from many wells
The stories and conversations we share throughout the book
come from our own lives and from our work with a diverse group of
students colleagues and clients For variety and to protect conden-
tiality many of these stories are amalgams of different peoples expe-
riences that shared common and important dynamics and as a rule
all identifying facts have been changed We are deeply grateful to
those weve worked with for sharing with us so generously the con-
versations with which they were struggling It is from their openness
and their courage to try something new that we have learned the most
In addition to our own research and reection this work incor-
porates and builds on ideas from many other disciplines Our train-
ing was originally in negotiation mediation and law but this book
draws at least as much from the elds of organizational behavior cog-
nitive client-centered and family therapies social psychology com-
munication theory and the growing body of work around the idea of
dialogue
This work began in a teaching collaboration with faculty from
the Family Institute of Cambridge who have contributed to it in
countless ways Dr Richard Chasin and Dr Richard Lee worked
with Bruce Patton and Roger Fisher to develop what we call the In-
terpersonal Skills Exercise itself inspired by a demonstration offered
by psychodrama specialists Dr Carl and Sharon Hollander in
which participants are coached on their toughest conversations This
exercise has been at the heart of Harvard Law Schools Negotiation
x Acknowledgments
Workshop and of our learning for more than a decade In teaching
this exercise with us Dick Rick Sallyann Roth Jody Scheier and
their associates from the Family Institute have taught us about family
dynamics inuence common reasons people get stuck and how
to care for people in pain
We are also grateful to Chris Argyris and to the partners of Action
Design Diana McLain Smith Bob Putnam and Phil McArthur
Their insights into the dilemmas of organizational life and inter-
personal structures have proven invaluable to our understanding of
conversations how they go awry and how to put them back on
course A great many concepts in this book including joint contribu-
tion impact versus intent and interpersonal intersections are de-
rived from their work They are also the source of the two-column
tool the ladder and footprint metaphors and methods of mapping
The two rules for expressing feelings come from Bob Putnam Our
understanding of how to tell your story and get off to a good start re-
ects the work of Don Schn and Diana Smith on framing and
input from John Richardson on roles Diana and our colleagues
at Vantage Partners have offered many useful illustrations of how
these ideas explain and help with the challenges of organizational
life
From the eld of cognitive therapy we have beneted from the
research and writings of Aaron Beck and David Burns We are par-
ticularly indebted to them for their research on how cognitive distor-
tions affect our self-image and emotions David Kantor a founder of
family therapy and of the Family Institute has helped us in under-
standing the landscape of what we call the Identity Conversation and
how it plays out in group dynamics
Insights from social psychology and communication theory are
too pervasive to cite It is perhaps a testament to the power of these
insights that many of them are no longer the province of specialists
However we owe a great debt to the late Jeff Rubin for bringing many
ideas to our attention as well as for his unceasing support and encour-
agement Our work on listening and the power of authenticity was in-
uenced by Carl Rogers Sheila Reindl and Suzanne Repetto John
Grinder gave us the concept of three viewpoints or positions that
Acknowledgments xi
correspond to your perspective the other persons perspective and
an observers perspective
In the eld of dialogue we owe a debt of gratitude to Laura
Chasin and her collaborators at the Public Conversations Project to
our friends at Conict Management Group and to Erica Fox From
them we have learned about the transformative power of telling ones
story and speaking to the heart of the matter a subject on which Bill
Isaacs Louise Diamond Richard Moon and others are also doing
important work
For providing early encouragement and opportunities to teach
what we were learning we wish to thank Roger Fisher Bob Mnookin
Frank Sander and David Herwitz of Harvard Law School Rob
Ricigliano Joe Stanford and Don Thompson of Conict Manage-
ment Group Eric Kornhauser of Conict Management Australasia
Shirley Knight of CIBC Bank in Canada Archie Epps Harvard Col-
lege Dean of Students Colonels Denny Carpenter and Joe Trez of
The Citadel in South Carolina and Gary Jusela and Nancy Ann
Stebbins of the Boeing Company and Carolyn Gellerman who in-
troduced us Deborah Kolb of the Program on Negotiation and our
colleagues at Conict Management Inc Our friend and associate
Stephen Smith helped us develop our work with family businesses
and foundations and introduced us to our agent Esther Newberg
who along with her team at ICM has been terric We are grateful
for their condence in us and their support over the years
We are also blessed with a talented and caring group of friends
and co-workers who put aside their busy schedules
to read drafts
make suggestions and cheer us on along the way Roger Fisher Erica
Fox Michael Moftt Scott Peppet John Richardson Rob Ricigliano
and Diana Smith have lived with us and the work for perhaps longer
than they would have chosen By critiquing rewriting or outlining al-
ternative sections or whole chapters each has had a signicant and
lasting impact on the product For stories feedback and support we
are grateful to Denis Achacoso Lisle Baker Bob Bordone Bill Bres-
lin Scott Brown Stevenson Carlbach Toni Chayes Diana Chigas
Amy Edmondson and George Daley Elizabeth England Danny Er-
tel Keith Fitzgerald Ron Fortgang Brian Ganson Lori Goldenthal
xii Acknowledgments
Mark Gordon Sherlock Graham-Haynes Eric Hall Terry Hill Ed
Hillis Ted Johnson Helen Kim Stu Kliman Linda Kluz Diane
Koskinas Jim Lawrence Susan McCafferty Charlotte McCormick
Patrick McWhinney Jamie Moftt Linda Netsch Monica Parker
Robert and Susan Richardson Don Rubenstein and Sylvie Carr
Carol Rubin Jeff Seul Drew Tulumello Robin Weatherill Jeff
Weiss Jim Young Louisa Hackett and many others
Our families have spent years wondering if any such book as this
would ever actually come to be They have read and critiqued drafts
offered unconditional and greatly appreciated advice and moral sup-
port and politely gone along with our versions of family stories for
which we love them all the more and are deeply
grateful Robbie
and David Blackett Jack and Joyce Heen Jill and Jason Grennan
Stacy Heen Bill and Carol Patton Bryan Patton and Devra Sisitsky
John and Benjamin Richardson Diana Smith Don and Anne Stone
Julie Stone and Dennis Doherty and Randy Stone
We could not have asked for a better editor and team at Viking
Penguin Our editor Jane von Mehren is not only intelligent and in-
sightful but also fun and easy to work with Jane Susan Petersen
Barbara Grossman Ivan Held Alisa Wyatt and the team saw immedi-
ately what we were working toward and we very much appreciate
their commitment to put it in the hands of as many people as possible
Our line editor Beena Kamlani and copy editor Janet Renard had
the courage to take on the three of us and the manuscript is the better
for it even if we have insisted on using the plural they them etc
to refer to indenite singular antecedents as a way to maintain gender
neutrality As this usage has recently grown more common in speech
younger readers may think it quite natural However we apologize in
advance to those who nd it unusual or jarring Finally Maggie
Payette and Francesca Belanger our designers have done a great job
of making the cover and text distinctive accessible and beautiful
As usual the good things about this book owe a great deal to
others while errors and omissions are solely our responsibility
Doug Bruce Sheila
Cambridge Massachusetts
Contents
Foreword by Roger Fisher
vii
Acknowledgments ix
Introduction xv
The Problem 1
1 Sort Out the Three Conversations 3
Shift to a Learning Stance 21
The What Happened Conversation 23
2 Stop Arguing About Whos Right Explore Each Others Stories 25
3 Dont Assume They Meant It Disentangle Intent from Impact 44
4 Abandon Blame Map the Contribution System 58
The Feelings Conversation 83
5 Have Your Feelings Or They Will Have You 85
The Identity Conversation 109
6 Ground Your Identity Ask Yourself Whats at Stake 111
xiv Contents
Create a Learning Conversation 129
7 Whats Your Purpose When to Raise It and When to Let Go 131
8 Getting Started Begin from the Third Story 147
9 Learning Listen from the Inside Out 163
10 Expression Speak for Yourself with Clarity and Power 185
11 Problem-Solving Take the Lead 201
12 Putting It All Together 217
A Road Map to Difficult Conversations
235
A Note on Some Relevant Organizations
249
Introduction
Asking for a raise Ending a relationship Giving a critical perfor-
mance review Saying no to someone in need Confronting disre-
spectful or hurtful behavior Disagreeing with the majority in a
group Apologizing
At work at home and across the backyard fence difcult conver-
sations are attempted or avoided every day
A Difficult Conversation Is Anything
You Find It Hard to Talk About
Sexuality race gender politics and religion come quickly to mind
as difcult topics to discuss and for many of us they are But discom-
fort and awkwardness are not limited to topics on the editorial page
Anytime we feel vulnerable or our self-esteem is implicated when
the issues at stake are important and the outcome uncertain when
we care deeply about what is being discussed or
about the people
with whom we are discussing it there is potential for us to experience
the conversation as difcult
We all have conversations that we dread and
nd unpleasant
that we avoid or face up to like bad medicine
One of the senior engineers at your company an old friend has
become a liability Management has picked you to re him
xvi Introduction
You overheard your mother-in-law telling a neighbor that your
sons are spoiled and undisciplined As you prepare to spend the
holidays at her house youre not sure the two of you can get
through the week without a confrontation
The project you are working on took twice as long as you told
the
client it would You cant afford not to bill for the extra time but
you dread informing the client
You want to tell your father how much you love him but fear
that the intimacy might make both of you feel awkward
You recently learned that several black colleagues on the police
force refer to you as an Uncle Tom Youre infuriated but you
arent sure whether talking about it would accomplish anything
And of course theres the stuff of everyday life conversations
that feel more ordinary but cause anxiety nonetheless returning mer-
chandise without a receipt asking your secretary to do some photo-
copying telling the painters not to smoke in the house These are the
interactions we put off when we can and stumble through when we
must The ones we practice over and over in our head trying to g-
ure out in advance what to say and wondering
afterward what we
should have said
What makes these situations so hard to face Its our fear of the
consequences whether we raise the issue or try to avoid it
The Dilemma Avoid or Confront
It Seems There Is No Good Path
We all know this dilemma We go round and round
on the same
questions Should I raise this Or should I keep it to myself
Perhaps the neighbors dog keeps you up at night Should I talk
to them you wonder At rst you decide not to Maybe the bark-
Introduction xvii
ing will stop Maybe Ill get used to it But then the dog barks again
and you resolve that tomorrow you are going to talk to the neighbors
once and for all
Now you lie awake for a different reason The thought of getting
into a ght with the neighbors about their dog makes you nervous
You want the neighbors to like you maybe youre overreacting Even-
tually you come back to thinking its better to say nothing and this
calms your nerves But just as you drop off to sleep that darn dog
howls again and your cycle of indecision starts anew
There doesnt seem to be any choice that will allow you to sleep
Why is it so difcult to decide whether to avoid or to confront
Because at some level we know the truth If we try to avoid the prob-
lem well feel taken advantage of our feelings will fester well won-
der why we dont stick up for ourselves and well rob the other
person of the opportunity to improve things But if we confront the
problem things might get even worse We may be rejected or at-
tacked we might hurt the other person in ways we didnt intend and
the relationship might suffer
There Is No Such Thing
as a Diplomatic Hand Grenade
Desperate for a way out of the dilemma we wonder if it is possible to
be so tactful so overwhelmingly pleasant that everything ends up
ne
Tact is good but its not the answer to difcult conversations
Tact wont make conversations with your father more intimate or
take away your clients anger over the increased bill Nor is there a
simple diplomatic way to re your friend to let your mother-in-law
know that she drives you crazy or to confront your colleagues hurt-
ful prejudices
Delivering a difcult message is like throwing a hand grenade
Coated with sugar thrown hard or soft a hand grenade is still going
to do damage Try as you may theres no way to throw a hand
xviii Introduction
grenade with tact or to outrun the consequences And keeping it to
yourself is no better Choosing not to deliver a difcult message is
like hanging on to a hand grenade once youve pulled the pin
So we feel stuck We need advice that is more powerful than Be
diplomatic or Try to stay positive The problems run deeper than
that so must the answers
This Book Can Help
There is hope Working at the Harvard Negotiation
Project with
thousands of people on all kinds of difcult conversations we have
found a way to make these conversations less stressful and more pro-
ductive A way to deal creatively with tough problems while treating
people with decency and integrity An approach that
is helpful to
your peace of mind whether or not others join in
We are going to help you get out of the hand grenade business al-
together by getting you out of the business of delivering and receiv-
ing messages We will show you how to turn the damaging battle
of warring messages into the more constructive approach we call a
learning conversation
The Rewards Are Worth the Effort
Of course changing how you deal with difcult conversations takes
work Like changing your golf swing adapting to drive on the other
side of the road or learning a new language the change can feel
awkward at rst And it can feel threatening breaking out of your
comfort zone is rarely easy and is never risk-free It requires you to
look hard at yourself and sometimes to change and grow But better
the ache of muscles growing from an unaccustomed workout than
the sting of wounds from an unnecessary ght
And the potential rewards are rich If you follow the steps pre-
sented in this book you will nd difcult conversations becoming
easier and causing less anxiety You will be more effective and hap-
Introduction xix
pier with the results And as your anxiety goes down and your satisfac-
tion goes up you will nd that you are choosing to engage more
often in conversations that you should have been having all along
In fact the people weve worked with who have learned new ap-
proaches to dealing with their most challenging conversations report
less anxiety and greater effectiveness in all of their conversations
They nd they are less afraid of what others might say They have a
heightened sense of freedom of action in tough situations more self-
condence and a stronger sense of integrity and self-respect They
also learn that more often than not dealing
constructively with
tough topics and awkward situations strengthens a relationship And
thats an opportunity too good to pass up
Skeptical A Few Thoughts
If youre skeptical thats understandable You may have been strug-
gling with these issues for weeks months or years The problems are
complex and the people involved are not easy to deal with How can
reading a book make a difference
There are limits to how much you can learn about human inter-
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